Chandler and Ajinca Traded – Wow

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A Big, Unexpected Trade With Dallas

The Charlotte Bobcats have traded Tyson Chandler and Alexis Ajinca to the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for Eduardo Najera, Matt Carroll, and Erick Dampier.

Wow, this came out of nowhere. ESPN coverage here. Bobcats have posted a Release on their site, as well.

We’ll give this further analysis later today, but here are my first thoughts :

• Matt Carroll is back!
• Shaq used to call Erick Dampier “Ericka.”
• This has got to be a set up for another deal… Let’s see what’s next.

-Mike


POLL : What Should Bobcats Do With Erick Dampier?

  • Waive & Save $13 Mill
    (16%, 35 Votes)
  • Waive & Resign
    (12%, 26 Votes)
  • Trade For Point Guard
    (55%, 124 Votes)
  • Trade For Draft Picks (17%, 39 Votes)

Total Voters: 224

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62 thoughts on “Chandler and Ajinca Traded – Wow

  1. RobC

    I like this trade way better then the one with Toronto, plus ESPN reports that Calderon had a 10% Trade Kicker and that is why MJ backed out of the deal.

    Now Chris Paul is a REALLY long shot, but how about:

    Dampier and Diop to Washington

    Arenas and McGee to Charlotte

    Washington will save over $65M in current and future Cap Space and we will become a contender. We can then sign Flip and Theo and keep Diaw who can play all positions.

    Arenas/DJ/Flip

    Jackson/Henderson/Carroll

    Wallace/Diaw/Brown

    Thomas/Najera/McGuire

    McGee/Nazr/Theo

    If MJ and Larry Brown can make it work (I believe hthey can), that would be an amazing lineup. The Bobcats can become a legit contender and still under the Luxury Tax limit.

  2. Bobcats Orange?

    Well glad to have Ajinca out of here, clean up yet another Bobcats draft mistake, but I thought the point was to get rid of Chandler's expiring for something worthwhile?

    Our big problem is scoring and we just traded for three players that combined don't score 10 points per game.

    Hopefully this is to set something else up, cuz we just got hosed.

  3. Br2850

    Hey what if this trade was a deal to setup for something big like this trade:

    Charlotte Gets:

    Russell Westbrook PG(4 million/year)

    Jamario Moon SF(3 million/year)

    Trade Exception for Lebron James(9 million)

    Oklahoma City Gets:

    J.J Hickson PF(1.5 million/year)

    Mo Williams PG(9.3 million/2years)

    Matt Carroll SG(4.3 million/3years)

    Eduardo Najera F(2.8 million/2years)

    Cleveland Gets:

    Jeff Green SF(4.4 million/year)

    Boris Diaw F(9 million/year)

    Trade Exception for Raja Bell(3 million)

    The trade works but i dont think the Thunder would agree to the trade but who knows crazier things have happened in the NBA !!

  4. No, Br2850, crazier things than that have never happened in the NBA.

    Russell Westbrook (especially) and Jeff Green (probably) are untouchable for the Thunder. You just don't trade players who are already making a significatn impact in your rotation (in OKCs case, helping them to the playoffs) while still on their bargain rookie contracts — unless you're getting a top-10 superstar back.

    We appreciate the fake trade ideas, they're fun to talk about, but please try to be sane.

  5. Br2850

    Another Trade that works and could really help the bobcats but might not happen:

    Charlotte Gets:

    Rodney Stuckey PG(2.8 million/year)

    Ben Gordon SG(11 million/3years)

    Charlie Villanueva PF/C(7 million/3years)

    Detriot Gets:

    Boris Diaw F(9 million/year)

    Erik Dampier C(Un. 13 million/year)

  6. CP3! CP3! CP3!

    I know the Hornets DO NOT want to trade Chris Paul, but we need a point guard, and we have some pieces to trade. My dream (absolute dream) scenario is CP3 and Meka for Dampier, Najera, Diop, and Diaw. I know Meka isn't a great fit, but the Hornets need to dump salary.

  7. Ben F

    this has to be a setup for another trade one that needs to be done for a pg, glad we got the salary dump we can make moves now, but lets me say this… MATT CARROLL WAS MY BOY SO GLAD HE IS BACK IN THE QUEEN CITY!!!!!!!

  8. RobC

    I agree that Arenas, although risky, is a better deal than Monta Ellis; I would love to see a deal of Dampier & Diop for Arenas and McGee (WAS saves over $65M and Bobcats become a legit contenders).

    However, Mo Williams has been on the block and the Cavs will most likely rebuild, regardless of what the owner said in his email.

    How about Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao and Delonte West (just $500K guaranteed) for Nazr and Dampier's contract. Varejao can start at Center, then they could try and get Brad Miller with the MLE as a backup Center.

    Williams/DJ

    Jackson/Henderson/Carroll

    Wallace/Diaw/Brown

    Thomas/Najera/McGuire

    Varejao/Miller/Diop

  9. Baseliners, it's been a wild couple of days. The only thing I think we can say for sure it that something else is clearly in the works. I have to believe that Dampier's expiring contract is going to be involved in a big trade in the coming days. Probably involving Diaw, but not necessarily — seems like Jordan may be trying to swing for the fences here.

    There's certainly a huge dose of wishful thinking involved, but I can't shake the feeling that Jordan is trying to pry CP3 from New Orleans. That franchise is in disarray and there are obviously ties between CP3 and Jordan/Carolinas.

    And if it falls through, then at least we can just waive Dampier and get right as far as salary cap goes.

  10. Dr. E-

    What about Dampier's waivable contract for Monta Ellis & a pick?

    And is it safe to assume Dampier and Diaw will not be on the opening day roster?

  11. RobC

    That trade with Detroit is not going to work, the Bobcats need to trade with a team in rebuilding mode, i.e. Golden State or Cleveland. That being said, it looks like our best two options could be Monta Ellis or Mo Williams. I would also love for the Bobcats to inquire about Chauncy Billups, Ty Lawson seems like a keeper for Denver.

  12. Everyone here seems optimistic and for that I'm grateful.

    But does anybody realize that the Bobcats just traded (what amounts to) the #2 overall selection in the 2004 draft (Emeka Okafor) AND a 2010 first rounder for Matt Carroll, Najera and an expiring contract?

    That, my friends, is why you MUST have a long term plan as an organization.

    CP3 sounds more and more like a pipe dream every day. Shinn just fired general manager Jeff Bower — supposedly for Bower's willingness to trade Chris Paul. Shinn has now elevated his son to the role of active GM.

    Can only imagine what the call between Chad Shinn and Jordan would be like but would expect it to have all of the nuance of an impromptu Texas Hold 'Em game played by patients in the Head Trauma ward.

    Plus, does anybody even want CP3 anymore?

    Think about it, he's openly talking about recruiting Carmelo to go to the Knicks in 2012 and has just dumped his former agency to sign on with Lebron James's crew last week – all while still under contract with his current team (who, might I add, are paying him north of $14 million a year). Not exactly a team-first player. Even if Paul comes to Charlotte, don't expect him to be anything more than a two year rental.

    Ah, to be a Bobcat fan. I'm starting to understand the mind of Lebron. A frontrunner's life is that of blissful, painless ignorance.

  13. justin

    If you read the ESPN report linked above in Mike's article, it mentions that the cats have expressed interest in Ramon Sessions from the TWolves. I figured they'd go after one of the 10 million point guards Minn has…did you know they are about to sign Luke Ridenour?? Anyway, still want Paul, but for the short term, Sessions might do the trick…maybe they offer CP3 a huge contract next year?

  14. Tyler

    so u dont thtink Chris Paul will be faithfull because when u think of it he said he wants the knicks b4 we rlly had any chance at him so as long as Charotte is a playoff team do you rlly think he would leave?

  15. Charlie

    okay how does anyone think Monta Ellis fits in LB's system. He is not a PG at all, he takes way too many shots. The system he is in boosts his numbers just like the Suns and Knicks players. I can definetly see Dampier, 1st rounder, and possibly Diaw for CP3 and a player they want to get rid of. Arenas could be dealt for Dampier contract. Thing thing about this is that Dampier is non-gaurunteed so a team would take him for someone big on their team because they want cap relief such as the Hornets. They are trying to lower their cap because they need financial relief and now CP3 wants out. He is from this area so he would welcome it and possibly sign extension because its a championship caliber team with him. MJ and LB already have something in works obviously or they wouldn't have made trade. Najera was good pickup because he hustles non-stop. Matt Carroll is not good but it was someone we needed to take back to get "the contract". Dampier will be gone because MJ and LB understand this team is legit contender with a 3rd star such as CP3 or Gilbert Arenas (NOT MONTA ELLIS)

  16. Charlie-

    How is Arenas any better of a fit? A horrific contract for a selfish player who is terrible in the locker room. He doesn't spread the ball and he shoots too much at a low percentage. Monta is a much better defender and a better pure scorer. LB can work his magic, and we'll have one of the most athletic teams in the league with Monta-SJax-Crash-Thomas-(fill in center)

  17. Brad

    A straight up trade involving Boris Diaw and Jose Calderon could still happen, since both make about the same next year within 120%. If that does happen, we would use Najera to replace Reggie Evans and keep Dampier to have a pretty decent team. I know CP3 would like to come here, but I just don't think giving them damp, diaw, and diop without taking back something terrible or throwing in multiple picks/cash considerations to make something work. Hopefully we can get cp3 tho and free up cap space to make a run at horford next year to have an elite starting lineup in

    CP3, Jack, Crash, Tyrus, Horford – with Henderson, Augustin, and Brown locking down the 6 – 8 in the rotation.

  18. Charlie

    Really Arenas is selfish.. check the stats buddy. Ellis cannot defend, and ellis not better scorer. You must have Arenas confused with somebody else because when healthy hes a top 15 player in league and would become best player on our team. Monta would be third best if came to team and would hurt us by taking bad shots. Read Arenas stats before you say Ellis better. Also Arenas wins games when healthy and hits big shots all the time. He had one slip and everybody says he is bad guy, didnt that happen to JAX and noone here talks shit about him.

  19. justin

    Hello?!? Did you guys not see what I wrote earlier? They are interested in Ramon Sessions!! If they make a deal for him, it will be for the yr. I think this team is going to make a run at Paul next year.

  20. Charlie

    We heard that their interested in Ramon Sessions, he no better than DJ. just a score first PG. Ramon is for system in which he can do what he wants like he did with Bucks, he cant in LB system. I agree with Dr. E, something big is brewing.. CP3 knows he can win with Jax and Gerald and make thomas a 16 ppg scorer

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