Calderon/Evans for Diaw/Chandler Still Not Official (UPDATED)



The three team trade that will reportedly involve the Bobcats sending Boris Diaw and Tyson Chandler to Toronto and receiving Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans is still not official as of Monday evening.  Bonnell is reporting that it won’t happen tonight, and cites the complexities of a three-team deal in regards to satisfying salary cap issues for the delay.  In a subsequent blog entry, Bonnell reports that the Raptors are causing the holdup and that there is still a chance the deal could break down.

The Phoenix Suns are also supposedly involved — sending Leandro Barbosa to the Raptors for Hedo Turkoglu.  Earlier versions of the story also had the Suns sending Dwayne Jones to Charlotte, which accounts for the “three team” and not “two separate trades involving the Raptors” characterization of the deal.

Here at the Baseline, we’ve been anticipating a trade of either Diaw or Chandler for a point guard, but I have to say, I’m surprised it took both of them to get back someone the caliber of Calderon.  Granted, the contracts have to match up (and Calderon has a big one — 3 years left at an average of $10 million per year) but I would have rather seen a smaller deal that sent Diaw away for a cheaper PG like Jarrett Jack, Ramon Sessions or even TJ Ford.

Getting Chandler helps the Raptors improve defensively and maintain an air of respectability this year while still being bad enough to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick, then getting the cap space when Chandler’s deal expires to help their rebuilding project.  Frankly I would have rather kept Chandler to anchor the middle this year and used the cap space his expiring deal would provide next summer ourselves, but the Cats have essentially waived the white flag when it comes to being free agent players.

ASChin has already pontificated on Calderon in an earlier post; my take is fairly similar.  Calderon had a career year in 2007-08 while splitting time with TJ Ford at the point.  Calderon led the league in assist-to-turnover ratio while shooting over 50% from the field, 40% from 3PT, and 90% from FT.  As a result, the Raps traded TJ Ford away after the season and signed Calderon to the current fat deal he’s on.

However, Calderon (and the Raptors, for that matter) has struggled to meet expectations since.  He’s been hampered by injuries that have limited him to 68 games in each of the last two seasons.  Never a gifted defender to begin with, hamstring problems have rendered the Spaniard into a matador when it comes to defending quick opposing guards.  Toronto’s lack of interior defense didn’t help matters any.

Still, at his best, Calderon is a sharpshooting, efficient point guard with good size who excels at taking care of the ball and his teammates.  He’s not much of a playmaker, but under Larry Brown, the system will make the plays, not the point guard.  With Tyrus Thomas and Gerald Wallace on the court to provide help defense in the paint, his on-ball defensive deficiencies will hopefully be mitigated.

(UPDATED 11:55 PM ET)  Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski is now reporting that:

Charlotte owner Michael Jordan has had “second thoughts” on trade with Toronto and deal is suddenly in peril, league sources tell Y! Sports.

You mean I just wrote three paragraphs breaking down Jose Calderon’s career/game for nothing?!?!

-Dr. E

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34 Responses to “Calderon/Evans for Diaw/Chandler Still Not Official (UPDATED)”

  1. ASChin
    July 12, 2010 at 1:51 pm #

    For those interested, I put an approximation of the new salary info into the following cap breakdown graphic. Apologies for the squint size. I'll upload a larger version when I post the State of the Roster column later in the week.

    <img src="; alt="Bobcats Updated Salary Information" />

    (Estimated Salaries in gold type)

  2. ASChin
    July 12, 2010 at 6:45 pm #

    If you read Bonnell's blog, he basically says that the deal will most likely get done once Colangelo concedes to the financial terms dictated by Jordan.

    So looks like Jose and Reggie will be on their way after all.

    DrE- Were you being serious when you typed, "I would have rather kept Chandler to anchor the middle"???

    The only things Tyson was going to "anchor" this year was:

    a.) The Payroll

    b.) The Infirmary

    Again, the Bobcats still have Mohammed, Diop and Ajinca to play center by committee and if they re-sign Theo Ratliff will essentially have the same platoon of centers that guided them to Playoffs last season. Hopefully this move will light a fire under Diop and have him start earning his hefty salary.

  3. ASChin
    July 12, 2010 at 6:48 pm #

    Bonnell and a few others have insisted that the Michael Beasley trade was extinguished because of a salary cap issue on the Bobcats part. While that may have factored into it, I still insist that the Heat weren't going to ship off a potential All-Star prospect to a division rival if they could get around it. Up in Minny, the Heat will only have to deal with Beasley twice a year.

  4. Charlie
    July 12, 2010 at 7:43 pm #

    Reggie Evans is nice addition. He not offensive at all, but he sure can rebound and play Defense with a capital D. Lets hope the Bobcats decline Ajinca's option this upcoming year. Bobcats might have one of best 1-2-3 set in league, like top 10. Calderon also isnt as bad as defender as people say, according to stats he is actually very efficient on defense and wasnt considered a bad defender until last year, when he was hampered by hamstring injury all year. Calderon per 36 minutes averages 14 9 and 3 and a steal and only 2 turnovers. Very efficient player and LB loves efficiency. You need a efficient PG with Jax because he needs ball in his hand alot to put up his stats. Calderon will possess ball more however and probably will help lower JAX TO's.

  5. Tyler
    July 12, 2010 at 8:39 pm #

    we are probly telling toronto we arent giving up 2 starters for 1 and telling them or the suns to give us mre than Jose and Reggie

  6. Tyler
    July 12, 2010 at 9:23 pm #

    does anyone one think we might ask for Robin Lopez in this deal

  7. Spork
    July 12, 2010 at 9:38 pm #

    I got to thinking to myself that the "real" reason this may be getting held up is because MJ is playing "chicken" with Colangelo in that MJ is trying to dump diops contract onto the Raps. Maybe it's still wishful thinking but i would be happier if we got Diops contract off as well/instead of Chandler's because at this point I'd prefer the cap relief next year over having to have Diop stuck on the roster.

  8. Dr. E
    July 12, 2010 at 9:40 pm #

    Does anyone think that Jordan had "second thoughts" because another team came along with a better offer for Chandler's expiring?

    Something else in the works?

  9. Ben
    July 12, 2010 at 9:52 pm #

    Dr. E –

    I think that has to be it. $12.8 off the cap is a ton, and another team is sure to call with this trade dragging out. Minnesota and Golden State could use a big defensive center, and we could definitely use Al Jefferson and Monta Ellis. I was hoping to get more out of Tyson's gigantic exp. contract

  10. carter
    July 12, 2010 at 9:54 pm #

    Diop and Diaw match up money wise with Evans and Calderon if Toronto does not want to give up any of their exception. That would be awesome.

  11. Justin
    July 12, 2010 at 9:55 pm #

    As I stated yesterday, I like the deal for Calderon…I've always like his offensive game. Great shooter and can make plays when needed (he's not felton in that regard, but I'd trade that for some of the turnovers Felton committed over his 4 yrs here). But now with the deal in jeopardy, I tend to agree with you Dr E. Something more intriguing coming our way? Or did MJ realize that we were giving a bit more up for what we were receiving? As much as I like Calderon, I hate giving Chandler up in the deal as well, and feed we should get something better back then Reggie Evans.

  12. Tyler
    July 12, 2010 at 10:10 pm #

    could we be getting Robin Lopez somehow?

  13. Brett
    July 12, 2010 at 10:45 pm #

    MJ is fighting this deal to get more value that is why it hasn't gone through.

  14. mike15
    July 12, 2010 at 10:52 pm #

    Let's hope that Jordan heard a better offer from someone, or is at least bluffing to get more from the Raptors/Suns.

    So, there's a bunch of talk about the Cats giving up two starters for Calderon and a sub. On the surface that doesn't sound good for the Cats, but that's not exactly an accurate description of the situation.

    Tyson Chandler wasn't really a starter for Charlotte. Michael Jordan can't be too happy to look at his bank account and see that he paid Chandler just under $10 million to dress for 51 games, start only 21, and average just 21 minutes for those games. As for stats – the dude only contributed about 6.5 points and just over 6 rebounds per game.

    Old man Nazr Mohammed played and started more games that Tyson – and he had a higher points-per-game average. I'm not trying to argue that Nazr has more "upside", just that Tyson is really that bad. Any deal to unload him would look attractive to Jordan.

  15. Brett
    July 13, 2010 at 12:29 am #

    haha can we just give them Diop for free?

  16. Tyler
    July 13, 2010 at 12:46 am #

    people on Raptors Republic are calling MJ a punk and are bashing him because he reconsidered the trade after telling everybody they were being traded. its bad over there they are really being babys

  17. Brett
    July 13, 2010 at 12:59 am #

    Don't worry about the craptors. They just want every Euro guy in the league so they are frustrated when MJ refuses to be hog tied in a deal that doesn't give us good value for TC.

  18. Tyler
    July 13, 2010 at 1:27 am #

    is this something that MJ, LB, and Rod decided to do together or did MJ just say no i dnt wana trade Tyson because if thts the case MJ needs to just listen to LB

  19. RobC
    July 13, 2010 at 1:50 am #

    Hey someone patsed a link in the Observer blog, saying that Ajinca is being traded. Any news on this???

  20. Brett
    July 13, 2010 at 3:06 am #

    His agent confirmed with yet another sketchy source that he is being traded (instead of chandler I think Jordan wants to shop elsewhere with chandler. This was earlier in the morning i heard that im not sure if anything has come of it since.

  21. Tyler
    July 13, 2010 at 3:11 am #

    well where is he going and wat for?

  22. Dirty Dan
    July 13, 2010 at 3:30 am #

    Defintely agree with Brett on the fact that we wouldn't get enough for TC's huge expiring. Calderon is a nice upgrade over felton, but just not worth what they want in return. Diaw is gone, if not to TOR, then somewhere else. But Chandler is good enough that i wouldnt just make him a thorw in. He is going to play hard since its a contract year, so unless we can package him for something beast, I say move Diaw and Diop for a PG and let Chandler play out his deal.

  23. Mathodical
    July 13, 2010 at 3:56 am #

    "Don’t worry about the craptors. They just want every Euro guy in the league so they are frustrated when MJ refuses to be hog tied in a deal that doesn’t give us good value for TC."

    So wait…we like Euros so we're mad that we cant give you one of our European players? No I think most Raptors fans(rational ones like me) are mad that we basically said goodbye to a player who was here for 6 years and then suddenly we have him back it creates conflicting emotions.

    TC would have fit in well and we could have used the cap space we'd save next year with Jose and TC off the books, that being said appearantly Chandler has been shipped to Dallas for Dampier.

    Best of luck to you guys

  24. Justin
    July 13, 2010 at 4:09 am #

    Guys, what is going on here? What kind of trade is that with Dallas?? And still….WHO IS OUR PG? Is the deal with Calderon for Diaw still happening? Dampier is now our center, or does he get shipped out immediately, or released?

  25. Leroy
    July 13, 2010 at 4:19 am #

    WTF is jordan thinking… confused….

    so it means now we are not shipping out diaw? so diaw is really magic johnson the 2nd? LOL

    matt carroll has 3 years left and najera has 2 years left…dampier. almost the same kind of contract chandler has….

    better trade for a pg….

    i would rather have give up both starters for calderon over this trade unless jordan does something else after this.

  26. Leroy
    July 13, 2010 at 4:36 am #

    so wait….this is actually pretty good.

    not wasting time on the french man anymore.

    and since dampier contract is not guarantee next year.

    can waive him right away after the trade which give us cap space RIGHT AWAY!

  27. Justin
    July 13, 2010 at 4:41 am #

    Chris Paul?!?!!?!?!?!?!?! Do I dare to dream??

  28. Leroy
    July 13, 2010 at 4:44 am #

    chris paul contract is only 15m with 2 years left…..

    we should be able to take that.

    what kind of a trade can you come up with justin?

  29. ASChin
    July 13, 2010 at 5:13 am #

    My head is spinning. Logic suggests that there is another trade in the works. Then again this is Michael Jordan. Let's watch it play out in it's entirety.

  30. Ben
    July 13, 2010 at 5:36 am #

    We can definitely take on Chris Paul's contract, it's just a question of if New Orleans would want to trade him. If they're gonna trade Paul, we might have to take back 'Meka , and certainly have to give up Dampier. Maybe DJ or Henderson. I'd like to think we'd include Diaw also…

  31. Justin
    July 13, 2010 at 5:48 am #

    I didn't mention Diaw because I'm still thinking he's gone in another deal…but could be a possibility.

  32. Tyler
    July 13, 2010 at 8:41 am #

    but is are starting lineup good enough to get back to the playoffs even if we get a upgrade at PG i mean we still dnt even know if Tyrus will be better then Boris starting u know

  33. ASChin
    July 13, 2010 at 8:51 am #

    Ha! Looks like the trade is now going to be with Dallas.

    Tyson Chandler/Ajinca to Dallas for Erika Dampier, Matt Carroll (welcome back!) and Najera.

    And yes, that is the weirdest trade ever.

  34. Justin
    July 13, 2010 at 10:02 am #

    Dampier's expiring contract, Najera and Gerald Henderson for Paul? Im not a numbers guy so probably won't work, but I'm sure you guys can change it around to work. Not sure it's going to be possible now that it looks like Dallas is chasing Paul…

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