Ladies and Gentlemen…Tyson Chandler!


Fresh Off Their Most Promising Season Ever, The Bobcats Dump Salary!

Ladies and Gentlemen...Tyson Chandler!

See, it’s just like the Florida Marlins.  They stock up and win a World Series and then immediately dump payroll and start developing younger players for another run within the next decade. Except with the Bobcats, they win 35 games and dump salaries.  It’s almost identical.

Although my first response to the trade last night was overwhelmingly negative, I’ll try to channel my inner FOX NEWS and be “fair and balanced” in the following breakdown of the trade.


Put on Radiohead’s Hail to the Thief, dress in all-black, sneak a bourbon-filled flask into work and burn another Bob Johnson effigy…admit it, Bobcats fans, we’ve just wasted the past 5 years of our lives.

  1. After the most promising season in franchise history, the Bobcats pull a salary dump; sending a consistently productive player to our former home team for an injured lesser player with a smaller contract.
  2. This move basically states that George Shinn is more willing to spend on a winner than Bob Johnson.
  3. We ran Shinn out of town because he was cheap.  What kind of b.s. karma is this?

  4. Emeka Okafor has averaged a double-double in every one of his 5 NBA seasons.  Tyson Chandler has done it once…while playing with the second coming of Isiah Thomas (the player).  In other news, Michael Jordan has become the second coming of Isiah Thomas (the GM).
  5. The Bobcats were one of the bottom 5 teams in almost EVERY offensive category last season.  They replace a career 14ppg scorer with a guy who averages 8.2ppg.  Make it stop, please, make it stop.
  6. After an early bout with injuries, Emeka Okafor translates his practice of pilates and yoga (ala Kareem) into two consecutive seasons of 82 games.
  7. In 8 NBA seasons, Tyson Chandler has never played in all 82 games.

  8. Tyson Chandler is being lauded as defensive upgrade over Emeka Okafor.  An undisputed key defensive ability is shot blocking.  Okafor has a career average of 1.9bpg.  Chandler?  1.4bpg.
  9. Bobcats fans have ripped Okafor for being offensively offensive.  Wait till they get a load of Tyson Chandler (I’ll give you a preview…  Imagine Dwight Howard’s offensive game.  Got it?  Now take away 3 or 4 of his “moves.”  That’s right…)
  10. The OKC Thunder decided just a few months ago that Tyson Chandler wasn’t worth two stiffs that wouldn’t even be on their roster next season.  Now all of a sudden he’s worth a former Rookie of the Year.
  11. The same doctor who performed Tyson Chandler’s turf toe (or “death toe”) surgery two years ago deemed the toe to be a serious physical liability which rescinded his trade to the Thunder.
  12. Since the Bobcats are too broke to field a summer league team, conduct a proper training camp or retain proper organizational staff, they’ve arranged for Tyson’s physical to be conducted at the nearest Urgent Care facility.  He should pass with flying colors.
  13. Just to reiterate, Tyson Chandler couldn’t consistently average a double-double while playing with Chris-freakin’-Paul on a fast paced team like the Hornets.  What exactly is he going to do on a grind-it-out squad like the Bobcats?


H-H-Hey Kids!  Grab some Limbaugh-Strength Oxycotins everyone and put on your favorite rose-colored glasses, it’s time to take a positive look at this trade!!!

  1. Tyson Chandler is 7’1″.  Okafor is 6’10”.  We have a taller starting center for 60 games a year!
  2. Tyson Chandler likes to dunk the ball…well, actually, that’s his only shot but he does it with AUTHORITY!
  3. That yoga sissy Okafor would never just dunk on somebody.  Must’ve been all that soy estrogen in his system.

  4. Tyson Chandler’s contract expires in 2 Years!!!  Which means we can use that cap space to overpay some other seven footer in 2011…FANtastic!
  5. Tyson Chandler has played in meaningful playoff games.  Emeka Okafor will be playing in meaningful playoff games.
  6. Tyson Chandler is more “passionate” about basketball than Emeka Okafor.  This is apparently Larry Brown’s reasoning for making the trade.  This sets a great precedent, doesn’t it?  My brother just had PCL surgery.  Even though his doctor was consistent and skilled, maybe my bro would’ve been better off with a less talented, less dependable but more “PASSIONATE” surgeon?  By this rationale, Antonio Banderas is also the greatest living actor.

Let’s all be honest.  There is only one real benefit to this trade for Bobcats fans and that’s the fact that it makes the team look more attractive on the open market for a new buyer.  The sooner that Bob Johnson sells this team, the sooner we all get to potentially see a quality organization and Playoff basketball.

And I’m not hating on Tyson Chandler.  I really do hope that he comes in, stays healthy and improves the team.  I hope that I am dead wrong and that this deal plays out similarly to the Larry Johnson/Anthony Mason trade during the Summer of ’96.  Mason came in and put up the best numbers of his career and helped lead the Charlotte Hornets to a then franchise high 54 wins.
Realistically?  I doubt it.
After this move, Coach Brown might have to trade for some new fans.  The current ones just aren’t going to be very “passionate” about the team anymore.


POLL : The Okafor – Chandler Trade

  • Fair Deal For Both Teams (23%, 13 Votes)
  • Bobcats Blew This One (57%, 32 Votes)
  • Hornets Will Miss Chandler (20%, 11 Votes)

Total Voters: 56

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43 Responses to “Ladies and Gentlemen…Tyson Chandler!”

  1. Yash S
    July 28, 2009 at 5:12 am #

    I was furious at this trade when it was first announced yesterday, but the more I think about it, if we can resign Felton to a reasonable deal and then give Iverson a 2 year deal at the mid-level, it just might work.




    Diaw/Ajinca/Vet. Min. PF


    If Chandler can play in 60-65 games, are you telling me that team couldn't compete for the playoffs in the East? We're still in the same position as we were with Okafor, a fringe playoff team that won't get past the first round, but now without Oak's albatross contract around our necks. And then in 2011, Iverson, Chandler, Diop, and Mohammed all come off the books, LB will probably be gone by then and we can get a new coach and be a player in free agency with a solid core of Felton/Augustin/Wallace/Diaw.

    Again, this is contingent on Chandler being able to play at least 3/4 of the season, but if he can and we sign Iverson, this just might be a shrewd move on the Bobcats part. Anyway to find a silver lining on a trade about which admittedly I'm still not happy.

  2. Adam
    July 28, 2009 at 5:44 am #

    You guys are great.

    "If" he can play 60-65 games next year???!!!

    Does anybody remember how terrible this team looked when Raja went down in April? When Gerald was out for 10 games? This trade was made for financial reasons and financial reasons only. "Improving" isn't part of the equation it seems until Johnson sells the team.

    My other worry is that Portland may be finally closing in on their long running bid to pry Gerald Wallace away. I could totally see a Martell Webster/Travis Outlaw for Crash deal by the end of the summer.


    Maybe Bob Johnson can just cancel the season out right next year and rerun old episodes of "Good Times" on the Cable Box big screen instead. Isn't that how he used to run BET?

  3. parker
    July 28, 2009 at 6:05 am #

    lol i love the picture, and the caption

    ladies and gentlemen, TYSON CHANDLER!!!!!!!!!!!

    (chandler on ground grimicing in pain)

  4. Yash S
    July 28, 2009 at 6:15 am #

    "You guys are great.

    “If” he can play 60-65 games next year???!!!

    Does anybody remember how terrible this team looked when Raja went down in April? When Gerald was out for 10 games? This trade was made for financial reasons and financial reasons only. “Improving” isn’t part of the equation it seems until Johnson sells the team."

    Hey, when life gives you lemons…


  5. Yash S
    July 28, 2009 at 6:45 am #

    Sometimes I realize the Bobcats could've had a starting five of Paul, Roy, Wallace, Okafor, and Lopez.

    Then I want to go kill a kitten.

  6. Big Aristotle
    July 28, 2009 at 8:42 am #

    I don't know if we would have been able to get Chris Paul because we were third in the draft but I am thoroughly convinced that our team has no future now. I've lived in Raleigh for 16 years and through the mismanagement of the Hornets, Panthers, and now the Bobcats (which is STILL a stupid name for a franchise). There is no silver lining. Felton will be gone to shed salary. Wallace will be traded for a six pack and a lintball at this point. The only thing Charlotte got back in return is the complete and utter disdain of fans everywhere. Chandler does nothing for us that Okafor didn't and chances are he'll probably be injured AGAIN but at this point it doesn't matter. We won't even make the playoffs this year, the next, or for the foreseeable future as long as Johnson, Brown, Higgins, and Jordan are in the front office it does not matter if Johnson is gone if all these people are still in capacity. Hell, the damn Knicks will make the playoffs before we do now. We're not even going to the cellar on our way down folks, we are on a bullet train straight to NBA hell. And here is my sendoff:

  7. reggie
    July 28, 2009 at 8:53 am #

    wouldnt it be great if Ajinca and Chandler beasted this year? and the Cats finished 5th?

    yea. i know i can dream.

    but for the life of this franchise, im hoping for the better.

  8. Jaxon
    July 28, 2009 at 9:07 am #

    The Bobcats need a go to guy, they need points. Neither Chandler or Okafor are that guy. At least Chandler is a better rebounder, and can maybe get the ball more often to someone who can score.

  9. Jaxon
    July 28, 2009 at 9:09 am #

    Isn't Chandler the funny one, and Joey the dumb one? Or am I thinking of something else?

  10. reggie
    July 28, 2009 at 9:26 am #

    LB claims that Chandler can play multiple positions along with Boris and Gerald (wallace).

    so maybe hes looking at the roster like this:

    PG: DJ/Jefferson/ (Felton when or if he signs)/Boris?

    SG: Bell/Gerald(henderson)

    SF: Gerald/Boris/Derick

    PF: Boris/Gerald/Derick/Radman/Chandler

    C: Chandler/Diop/Nazr

    the reason why LB wanted Chandler was probably because hes a better perimeter defender. but thats if hes healthy…

    im baffled. LBs ways make no sense to me at times, but im willing to give it till thanksgiving.

  11. mike15
    July 28, 2009 at 9:41 am #

    I think this was the Bobcats way of participating in the NBA Cares program. Giving Emeka to New Orleans was such a kind gesture by the organization.

    With the Bobcats obvious need of offense / playmaker / seat-filler following this trade, I'm really thinking that Allen Iverson has got to be headed to town.

    So the new starting five of DJ, Raja, Gerald, Boris, and Tyson looks like a fine way to tempt Mike D'Antoni to take over as the new Bobcats coach when Lebron turns down the Knicks next summer.

  12. Adam
    July 28, 2009 at 10:30 am #


    What stats are you looking at?

    71, 75, 35, 80, 79, 73, 79, 45 games played over the past 8 seasons. And he has a massive RED FLAG waived by the same guy who operated on him.

    I'll take Hollinger's numbers and analysis (Insider Only) over QCH anyday:

  13. reggie
    July 28, 2009 at 10:32 am #

    Yash S:

    wouldnt Vlad's contract be expiring as well that year? so maybe we would be able to move him that year.

    but its not like we can say "Carmelo, come on down!!!" or anything like that. it all comes down to bob johnson being reminded that he owns a failing team.

    hell, the old BET was better than the state of the team right now.

  14. spectre
    July 28, 2009 at 11:23 am #

    Hollinger? The same guy who said Kerr should have been wearing a ski mask when we did the Richardson/Diaw, Bell trade? That guy?

    He just went on a rant…QCH showed stats to back his statements up.

    Brett at QCH actually follows the team…but if you'd prefer a national columnist that doesn't and bases everything on his formula then that's up to you.

    Just be prepared to be wrong.

    That "massive red flag" was the doctor saying that it's possible that injury could affect him over time. He's only under contract with us for 2 seasons.

    You average out those years and the games played by Mek & TC are almost exactly the same. If they play over 70 I consider that pretty much a full season as everyone misses a game or two due to the rough schedule. If you look at Mek's career he had 2 seasons where he only played 67 & 73 besides the one where he only played 26.

  15. Adam
    July 28, 2009 at 11:35 am #

    Alright spectre, if I'm wrong and Tyson has a better year than Emeka and the team makes the playoffs then I'm sending you my Autographed Replica Primoz Brezec jersey.

    What are you putting up?

  16. spectre
    July 28, 2009 at 11:41 am #

    I never said he would have a "better season"…but I think Chandler fits our needs better than Mek does. If TC can stay healthy (which is never a given with bigs who's had ankle issues…and that includes Mek as well) I think he will help us more than Mek would.

    Didn't Mek frustrate the hell out of you with his passion less game? Playing under the rim and being the most blocked C in the league? And not by other Cs…small guards repeatedly blocked his shot when he'd continually bring the ball down to their level vs. keeping it high.

    I liked Mek a lot…but I'm not going to ignore his shortcomings. I know you've heard the famous "Mek, just dunk the damn ball". Or how about "It'd be nice if we had a Center that can run the pick and roll".

    A Primoz jersey? LOL, that'd be hard to top! I could offer my Rufus bobble head but I think that's majorly overpaying.

  17. spectre
    July 28, 2009 at 1:55 pm #


    Have you guys looked at the career games played between the 2? Chandler had 6 years out of 8 where he played the whole season. Last year he had a recurring ankle injury (sort of like Mek in year 2?), but he tried to come back too soon so it didn't heal.

    Check out queen city hoops if you think we lost this trade so badly…maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised.

  18. Jeffrey
    July 28, 2009 at 2:58 pm #

    I am a Hornets fan that attended many games and just thought these references were hilarious and on the mark. Very entertaining writing

  19. Charlie
    July 28, 2009 at 2:59 pm #

    Traded Okafor so Ajinca could come an get more PT to be a beast, and DJ is gonna be a great defensive player.. Okay that probably wont happen but we need to re-sign Raymond Felton soon because he is one of fastest PG's in league, now we have one of faster Center's in league. Might as well run the Tar Heels fastbreak offense.

  20. Michael Procton
    July 28, 2009 at 6:32 pm #

    Jaxon, Chandler is NOT a better rebounder than Okafor by any measure.

    spectre, what is it that you think Chandler does that fits our needs? Having a longer neck? More tattoos? Scrappiness?

    Okafor, passionless? How do you figure? Because he suited up every night for the last two years while Chandler was on the bench in a sportcoat? Because he didn't do a dance every time he made a block or mean mug every time he put the ball in the basket? Isn't having a jumpshot a requirement of a center that can run the pick and roll? If so, we took about eight steps back in that department. Chandler's offensive "arsenal" makes Okafor look like Wilt.

  21. spectre
    July 28, 2009 at 11:50 pm #


    You'll be ok; you're just going thru the 5 stages of grief. Looks like you're well into denial and anger; soon you'll be on the road to acceptance.

  22. Jared
    July 29, 2009 at 12:55 am #

    Let's not forget that Okafor contributed to those 30 win teams as well. He didn't "lead" the Bobcats anywhere special.

    Chandler may not be better than Okafor, per se, but he's not significantly worse either. The stats show that. Chandler's career scoring average is significantly less, but Okafor takes significantly more shots per game. Chandler's FG% is higher than Meka's. Their rebounding stats, advanced stats anyways, are identical. The true knock on Chandler is his health. Chandler and Okafor have both had injury plagued seasons, but Meka does seem to be the more durable player right now.

    If Chandler can average 70+ games a season for 2 years, we're not really losing anything talent-wise.

    In terms of making a playoff run next season, I think we lose some continuity and chemistry, though long-term, it might have been time to blow it up.

    I think sentimentality is causing many of us to over-value Okafor's contributions. He's a really solid NBA player and I was happy to have him on the team, but I'm honestly not that upset to see him go.

  23. mike15
    July 29, 2009 at 4:18 am #

    The tough part about this trade is that we'll get another close inspection of the Chris Paul / Raymond Felton comparison.

    While Paul has become an Olympian, All-Star, and a post-season regular, Felton has delivered the Bobcats with 30 wins yearly and consistent trips to Myrtle Beach. Now we get to see how much of better player Chris Paul will make Okafor as a teammate.

    Perhaps, the negotiations with Felton's agent reached a point where they decided that if Felton wanted a Chris Paul kind of contract, he should show us what he could do with Tyson Chandler, some Euro dude with a beard and a super athletic small forward.

  24. Jared
    July 29, 2009 at 4:53 am #


    I'm not ignoring the cap room at all. When you're getting roughly equal talent back, a salary dump is not a pejorative.

  25. spectre
    July 29, 2009 at 5:06 am #


    Maybe not you so much, but even I felt like we should have gotten NOLA's '10 1st out of this deal. If nothing else Emeka does have more "value" in the league than Chandler so I was thinking at worst that pick should come back to us. Instead that 38 million in savings was the sweetener that made this more even? In other years I don't think it would have so much, but in this economy things have changed.

    Just a thought

  26. Jared
    July 29, 2009 at 5:23 am #

    I definitely think a 1st round pick coming back to Charlotte would have been fair in this trade.

    The salary cap is expected to shrink in the coming years, so yea I agree that cap room is important. I want Bob Johnson to be able to sell the team. Okafor is solid, and can contribute to a playoff team, but we didn't lose a star. I'm just taking a less sentimental view than others I suppose.

  27. Adam
    July 29, 2009 at 6:22 am #


    Please, you're killing me.

    Over the past three years, Emeka's shot 53%, 53% and 56% from the field and yes, Chandler's career FG% is a bit better and Emeka does take more shots BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HE CAN MAKE MORE SHOTS!

    I'm not saying that Okafor will ever be mistaken for Hakeem and we're not over-valuing Emeka. If anything, Okafor was tragically undervalued by his hometown fans during his 5 seasons here. The team just needed to get more value in return. If they wanted Tyson that bad, then why not trade Mohammed and Raja for him and then turn Okafor into Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen or Monta Ellis for example?

    Procton is right, the Chandler/Felton pick 'n roll might be the least of effective of it's kind in quite some time.

    Pretty easy if you are a defender on that play: "Hmmm, let's see. Felton can't hit shots within 8 feet and Chandler can only dunk. Alright everybody just stand your ground and let these two go through their charade."

  28. Jared
    July 29, 2009 at 7:47 am #

    I agree that more value in return would have been nice, but do any of your trade ideas sound the least bit realistic? I'm sure you have a reason to think they are but I respectfully disagree. I'm thinking a 1st round pick our way would have been more realistic in terms of added value.

    I'm not saying this is an A+ move for the Bobcats. I'm just saying it's not the end of the world.

  29. Jared
    July 29, 2009 at 7:49 am #

    Let the hyperbolic rants continue!

  30. spectre
    July 29, 2009 at 8:22 am #


    At least they'll be able to run the P&R…Mek could never do the pick without getting the offensive foul for a moving screen. That's the reason we never really utilized it because we could never get it off the ground; finishing wasn't the issue.

    Nice that you got to bring Felton in there to trash him though! If you'd look at "hot spots" (which BTW is down for Charlotte right now for individual players) Felton did pretty decent in the paint…and yes, better than DJ. That floater he started using last year was also pretty sweet.

    In regards to getting more value, maybe all of us are ignoring the significance of dumping that 38 million in this economy? Maybe right now that money savings is more valuable than a 1st round pick?

    "Let the hyperbolic rants continue!"


  31. reggie
    July 29, 2009 at 9:54 am #

    since im not 100% against this trade, ill look at it like this:

    maybe Chandler (when healthy i must reiterate) could help our team and his stats may improve. why? because in NO he played alongside David West, an elite PF who can rebound, score, and make defensive plays.

    of corse, Charlotte doesnt have an elite PF, so as a result, Chandler becomes our number one option in the paint–giving him more shot attempts, more tip in chances, and more rebounds.

    the opposite can be applied to NO now that they have a PF who plays C. Okafor is no way capable of keeping Duncan or Nowiski under 20 a night. Chandler is more of a "modern" C. just as NFL defensive ends are getting slimmer, today's Cs are more slender and more athletic than the days of Shaq. look at Wilt Chamberlin (granted Chandler isnt going to drop 100 anytime soon), he wasnt 300lbs of muscle. so maybe this shift to a modern C is going to help Charlotte.

    having Tyson run with DJ, Felton (kinda not so much) Boris, and Gerald is something that i am looking forward to in NBA live 10 since i would guess we could abuse the pick and roll with a bigger C and plenty of athletic wing players.

    tryin to stay positive over here.

  32. CC
    July 29, 2009 at 11:43 am #

    This will end up being a good trade.

    Chandler will score more points than Okafor. With Chris Paul and David West, Chandler did not need to put up that many points. The key is that he is healthy. Put your faith in Larry Brown.

    Okafor is a class act, but he wears black shoes with white sox.

  33. Jared
    July 29, 2009 at 12:30 pm #

    HAHA Jaxon,

    I wasn't going to say it, but you're right. I thought the baseline was the last safe place to talk Bobcats basketball. Guess Proc will be spreading his half-ass opinions on every message board available.

  34. Jaxon
    July 29, 2009 at 4:52 pm #

    Oh no Michael Procton is on here too!!! There's nowhere to hide!

    Seriously, at one Bobcats game I asked another BobcatsBaseliner "What's Okafor's deal? He needs to toughen up". My fellow BobcatsBaseliner replied "He needs to SLAM JAM it down!". Exactly! Who cares if we traded short average center for tall average center. Chandlers gonna Tomahawk, slam, jam, double-pump, Gran-ma-ma, back board break down tha house! We score 4 pts less per game, BUT it's more fun to watch!

    And no I am not catscratchreader Jaxon

  35. michael raciappa
    July 30, 2009 at 8:26 am #

    This trade will benefit Charlotte basketball the way that the Rex Chapman to the Bullets for Tom Hammond deal worked out. I mean where's Johnny Newman at? How about if the Bobcats sign Derrick Coleman, or perhaps Joe Wolf can take time out of his busy schedule at Dairy Queen and come on down south to show these boys how to ball. Any word from Corey Beck's agent yet? First round draft pick George Zidek where have you gone?

  36. Adam
    July 30, 2009 at 8:51 am #

    Thanks Ross.

    Leave it to the Legend to reference the Hammond/Chapman trade. What about Randolph Keys? Darvin Ham? Richard Anderson? Greg Graham?

    And if Felton gets dealt, will it be like the infamous J.R. Reid for WIllie Anderson swap in '92? Right down to the Carolina connection (2nd lottery picks in franchise history) and the fact that he has a more recent lottery pick at the same position ready to take over (Augustin today, Grandmama 17 years ago).

  37. RobC
    July 30, 2009 at 11:02 am #

    As much as I like Okafor, I do beleive the Bobcats actually braked even in this deal. And if Chandler is healthy we might have actually upgraded a little. Chandler is a better defensive player than Okafor. And don't bring the blocks per game stat because that's very overated, that doesn't say the whole story. There is nothing great in blocking 2 shots/game if your counterpart scores 30 and you score 14. Chandler will be better defending guys like: Garnet, Howard, Shaq, Duncan and Gasol or Bynum. ESPN mentioned that Chandler is a more effective defender overall, by downgrading his oponents PER by 3.74, compare to 0.54 from Okafor. That is the best way to measure defense, the impact you have in the PER of your counterpart. In fact, 95% of Emekas blocks were not against his oponent C; on the other hand Okafor was blocked by his counterpart like 3 times per game. And just FYI, I do like Okafor as a player and as a person. I would have love to see him stay and I also think we could have received more in return. But I also beleive that a lot of fans here are over reacting to this deal. If indeed Chandler doesn't play because of his injuries, then this was a bust, but we will not know that until the season begins.

    Now Bobcats Front Office, please sign Hakim Warrick. $7M/2Yrs. ($3.5/Year) or maybe $10M/3Yrs. ($3.3/Year). The guys will fill the backup PF spot perfectly. He's young, long, athletic, average defender. Plus, 11ppg 6rpg in 20+mpg is pretty good for a backup PF.

  38. Jaxon
    July 30, 2009 at 3:54 pm #

    Come on Jared, Procton aint that bad. Baseline is the best looking, most creative sports blog in the Carolinas… and probably beyond. Now you guys just need a user login/profile, so you can't just comment and impersonate any name you please.

    I mean seriously… How do you know I'm not Michael Procton??? [twilight zone music starts playing in background]

  39. michael raciappa
    July 30, 2009 at 5:03 pm #


    lets just say that in the Alonzo deal with Miami, the "answer" to the big man exchange was Matt Geiger. Throw in Khalid Reeves and you've got a blockbuster of potential. Hell call Robert Parish maybe "the chief" can give Larry Brown some quality minutes. But seriously the Bobcats need a real Jon Koncak type player, a real hustler. If i was MJ and Larry Brown i would try to get Chris Mullin involved with the franchise, he's quality. I for one think that it would be in the interest of the team to get Stacey Augmon more minutes. oh, Sherman Douglas says "hello".

  40. Bob Johnson
    August 3, 2009 at 3:02 pm #

    I'm trying to sell the bobcats. anyone interested?

  41. Morris
    October 6, 2010 at 1:20 am #

    This is interesting, post more often!


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